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▶ 💬 Guemara And he bathed at the time when the wagons [kerona] were traveling through Tzippori, i.e., on the market day, when the pu…
And he bathed at the time when the wagons [kerona] were traveling through Tzippori, i.e., on the market day, when the public would know about it, on the seventeenth of Tammuz, to show that bathing is permitted on that day. And he sought to abolish the fast of the Ninth of Av. And with respect to the Ninth of Av, the Sages did not agree with him. Rabbi Abba bar Zavda said to Rabbi Elazar: My teacher, the incident did not occur in this fashion. Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi never sought to abolish the fast of the Ninth of Av. Rather, it was a year when the Ninth of Av occurred on Shabbat, and they postponed it until after Shabbat. And Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi said about that case: Since it has already been deferred from its usual time, let it be altogether deferred this year. And the Rabbis did not agree with him. Rabbi Elazar read the verse about Rabbi Abba bar Zavda: “Two are better than one” (Ecclesiastes 4:9), meaning, it is good that you were here to provide an accurate report about that incident. The Gemara asks: And how could Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi plant a sapling on Purim? Didn’t Rav Yosef teach with regard to the verse: “Therefore the Jews of the villages, who dwell in the unwalled towns, make the fourteenth day of the month of Adar a day of gladness and feasting, and a good day [yom tov]” (Esther 9:19), that the term “gladness” teaches that it is prohibited to eulogize on Purim; “feasting” teaches that it is prohibited to fast; and the term “good day” [yom tov] teaches that it is prohibited to perform labor, just as on a Festival, which is also referred to as a yom tov? Rather, what happened was as follows: Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi was in a place that observed Purim on the fourteenth, and when he planted the sapling, he planted it on the fifteenth. The Gemara asks: Is that so? Wasn’t Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi in Tiberias, and Tiberias was surrounded by a wall since the days of Joshua, son of Nun. Consequently, he was obligated to observe Purim on the fifteenth. Rather, say just the opposite: Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi lived in a place that observed Purim on the fifteenth, and when he planted the sapling, he planted it on the fourteenth. The Gemara asks: Was it obvious to Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi that the city of Tiberias was surrounded by a wall since the days of Joshua, son of Nun? Didn’t Hezekiah read the Megilla in Tiberias both on the fourteenth and on the fifteenth of Adar, because he was uncertain if it had been surrounded by a wall since the days of Joshua, son of Nun, or not? The Gemara answers: Hezekiah was indeed uncertain about the matter, whereas it was obvious to Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi that Tiberias had been surrounded by a wall in the time of Joshua. The Gemara asks further: And when it was obvious to Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi that the Megilla should be read in Tiberias on the fifteenth, was it permitted to plant there on the fourteenth? Isn’t it written in Megillat Ta’anit that the fourteenth day and the fifteenth day of Adar are the days of Purim, and one is not permitted to eulogize on them? And Rava said: This statement is necessary only to prohibit those who observe Purim on this day to eulogize on that day, and those who observe Purim on that day to eulogize on this day. Since the two days are mentioned in the Bible, it was only necessary to mention them in Megillat Ta’anit in order to indicate that the prohibition against eulogizing applies to both days. Presumably, the same should apply to the prohibition against performing labor. Consequently, how could Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi plant a sapling on the fourteenth of Adar? The Gemara answers: That applies only to eulogies and fasting. However, labor is prohibited for only one day, either the fourteenth or the fifteenth, and no more. The Gemara asks: Is that so? Didn’t Rav see a certain man planting flax on Purim, and cursed him, and the man’s flax never grew. The Gemara answers: There, the man was obligated to observe Purim on that day that he planted the flax. Therefore, it was certainly prohibited to perform labor. Rabba, son of Rava, said a different answer to the question: Even if you say that Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi planted the sapling on his own day of Purim, i.e., on the day that the Megilla was read in his location, it was still permitted to plant the sapling. This is because the Jewish people accepted upon themselves the prohibitions against eulogizing and fasting on Purim, but they did not accept upon themselves the prohibition against performing labor. This can be proven from the fact that initially, when Mordecai and Esther proposed the celebration of Purim, it is written: “A day of gladness and feasting and a good day [yom tov]” (Esther 9:19), and at the end, when the celebration of Purim was accepted by the Jewish people, it is written: “That they should make them days of feasting and gladness” (Esther 9:22), whereas the term good day [yom tov], which alludes to a day when it is prohibited to perform labor, is not written. The people never accepted upon themselves the prohibition against performing labor on Purim as if it were a Festival, and therefore the prohibition never took effect. The Gemara asks: If labor is permitted on Purim, what is the reason that Rav cursed that man who planted the flax? The Gemara answers: It was a case of matters that are permitted by halakha, but others were accustomed to treat them as a prohibition, in which case one may not permit these actions in their presence, lest they come to treat other prohibitions lightly. In the place where that man planted his flax, it was customary to abstain from labor on Purim. However, in Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi’s place, it was not the custom to abstain from labor on Purim, and therefore it was permitted for him to plant the sapling even in public. And if you wish, say an alternative answer: Actually, it was the custom to abstain from labor on Purim in Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi’s place, and Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi engaged in a joyful act of planting, for pleasure rather than for financial benefit. As we learned in a mishna with regard to public fasts: If these fasts for rain have passed and the community’s prayers have still not been answered, and the drought continues, one decreases his business activities, as well as construction, planting, betrothals, and marriages. And it was taught in a baraita about this mishna: When the Sages said that construction must be decreased on public fasts, they were not referring to the construction of homes for people who have nowhere to live, but to joyful construction. Similarly, when they said that planting must be decreased, they were not referring to planting food crops, but to joyful planting. What is meant by joyful construction? This is referring to one who builds a wedding chamber for his son. It was customary to build a special house where the wedding would take place, and at times the couple would also live there. What is meant by joyful planting? This is referring to one who plants trees for shade and pleasure such as one might find in a royal garden [avurneki]. Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi engaged in joyful planting on Purim, in keeping with the joyous nature of the day. § The Gemara examines the matter itself cited in the previous discussion. Hezekiah read the Megilla in Tiberias both on the fourteenth and on the fifteenth of Adar, because he was uncertain if it had been surrounded by a wall since the days of Joshua, son of Nun, or not. The Gemara asks: Was he really uncertain about the matter of Tiberias? Isn’t it written: “And the fortified cities were Ziddim-zer, and Hammath, Rakkath, and Chinnereth” (Joshua 19:35), and we maintain that Rakkath is Tiberias? The Gemara answers: This is the reason that he was uncertain: Although Tiberias was surrounded by a wall in the time of Joshua, Hezekiah was uncertain about the halakha due to the fact that on one side, there was a wall of the sea, i.e., there was no physical wall, but the city was protected due to the fact that it adjoined the sea. The Gemara asks: If so, why was he uncertain? The sea is certainly not a wall. As it is taught in a baraita with regard to the sale of houses in walled cities, the phrase: “Which has a wall” (Leviticus 25:30), indicates that the city has a bona fide wall and not merely a wall of roofs. If a city is completely encircled by attached houses but there is no separate wall, it is not considered a walled city. The next verse, which is referring to cities that have no wall “round about them” (Leviticus 25:31), excludes Tiberias from being considered a walled city, as the sea is its wall on one side and it is not fully encircled by a physical wall. Consequently, Tiberias is not considered a walled city. The Gemara answers: With regard to the sale of houses of walled cities, Hezekiah was not uncertain. Where he was uncertain was with regard to the reading of the Megilla: What are the unwalled towns and what are the walled cities that are written with regard to the reading of the Megilla? Is the difference between them due to the fact that these unwalled towns are exposed, whereas those walled cities are not exposed? If so, since Tiberias is also exposed, as it is not entirely surrounded by a wall, it should be considered unwalled. Or perhaps the difference is due to the fact that these walled cities are protected, whereas those unwalled towns are not protected, and Tiberias is also protected by the sea and should be treated as a walled city. It was due to that reason that Hezekiah was uncertain when to read the Megilla. The Gemara relates that Rav Asi read the Megilla in the city of Huzal in Babylonia on both the fourteenth and the fifteenth of Adar, because he was uncertain if it had been surrounded by a wall since the days of Joshua, son of Nun, or not. Huzal was an ancient city, and it was possible that it had been surrounded by a wall in the time of Joshua. Some say a different version of this report, according to which there was no uncertainty. Rav Asi said: This city of Huzal of the house of Benjamin was walled since the days of Joshua, son of Nun. Incidental to the previous discussion concerning Tiberias, the Gemara relates that Rabbi Yoḥanan said: When I was a child I said something that I later asked the Elders about,
▶ 🇫🇷 Résumé en français Et il se baigna au moment où les chariots [kerona] traversaient Tzippori, c’est-à-dire le jour du marché, quand le publi…
Et il se baigna au moment où les chariots [kerona] traversaient Tzippori, c’est-à-dire le jour du marché, quand le public le saurait, le dix-sept de Tammouz, pour montrer que le bain est permis ce jour-là. Et il chercha à abolir le jeûne du neuf Av. Et quant au neuf Av, les Sages ne furent pas d’accord avec lui. Rabbi Abba bar Zavda dit à Rabbi Elazar : Mon maître, l’incident n’eut pas lieu de cette manière. Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi ne chercha jamais à abolir le jeûne du neuf Av. Plutôt, c’était une année où le neuf Av tomba un Chabbat, et on le reporta après Chabbat. Et Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi dit à ce sujet : Puisqu’il a déjà été différé de son temps habituel, qu’il soit entièrement différé cette année. Et les Rabbins ne furent pas d’accord avec lui. Rabbi Elazar lut le verset à propos de Rabbi Abba bar Zavda : « Deux valent mieux qu’un » (Ecclésiaste 4:9), c’est-à-dire, il est bon que tu sois ici pour fournir un rapport exact sur cet incident. La Guemara demande : Et comment Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi a-t-il pu planter un jeune arbre à Pourim ? N’est-ce pas que Rav Yossef enseigna à propos du verset : « C’est pourquoi les Juifs des villages, qui habitent les villes ouvertes, font du quatorzième jour du mois d’Adar un jour de joie et de festin, et un bon jour [yom tov] » (Esther 9:19), que le terme « joie » enseigne qu’il est interdit de faire des éloges funèbres à Pourim ; « festin » enseigne qu’il est interdit de jeûner ; et le terme « bon jour » [yom tov] enseigne qu’il est interdit de faire du travail, comme lors d’une Fête, qui est aussi appelée un yom tov ? Plutôt, voici ce qui s’est passé : Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi se trouvait dans un lieu qui observait Pourim le quatorze, et quand il planta le jeune arbre, il le planta le quinze. La Guemara demande : Est-ce ainsi ? N’est-ce pas que Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi était à Tibériade, et Tibériade était entourée d’un mur depuis les jours de Josué, fils de Noun. Par conséquent, il était obligé d’observer Pourim le quinze. Plutôt, dis juste le contraire : Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi vivait dans un lieu qui observait Pourim le quinze, et quand il planta le jeune arbre, il le planta le quatorze. La Guemara demande : Était-ce évident pour Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi que la ville de Tibériade était entourée d’un mur depuis les jours de Josué, fils de Noun ? N’est-ce pas qu’Ézéchias lut la Meguila à Tibériade à la fois le quatorze et le quinze d’Adar, parce qu’il était incertain de savoir si elle avait été entourée d’un mur depuis les jours de Josué, fils de Noun, ou non ? La Guemara répond : Ézéchias était en effet incertain à ce sujet, tandis qu’il était évident pour Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi que Tibériade avait été entourée d’un mur au temps de Josué. La Guemara demande encore : Et quand il était évident pour Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi que la Meguila devait être lue à Tibériade le quinze, était-il permis d’y planter le quatorze ? N’est-il pas écrit dans Meguilat Ta’anit que le quatorzième jour et le quinzième jour d’Adar sont les jours de Pourim, et il n’est pas permis de faire des éloges funèbres ces jours-là ? Et Rava dit : Cette déclaration n’est nécessaire que pour interdire à ceux qui observent Pourim ce jour-ci de faire des éloges funèbres ce jour-là, et à ceux qui observent Pourim ce jour-là de faire des éloges funèbres ce jour-ci. Puisque les deux jours sont mentionnés dans la Bible, il n’a été nécessaire de les mentionner dans Meguilat Ta’anit que pour indiquer que l’interdiction de faire des éloges funèbres s’applique aux deux jours. Vraisemblablement, il en va de même pour l’interdiction de faire du travail. Par conséquent, comment Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi a-t-il pu planter un jeune arbre le quatorze d’Adar ? La Guemara répond : Cela ne s’applique qu’aux éloges funèbres et au jeûne. Cependant, le travail n’est interdit que pour un seul jour, soit le quatorze, soit le quinze, et pas plus. La Guemara demande : Est-ce ainsi ? N’est-ce pas que Rav vit un certain homme plantant du lin à Pourim, et il le maudit, et le lin de cet homme ne poussa jamais. La Guemara répond : Là, l’homme était obligé d’observer Pourim ce jour-là même où il planta le lin. Par conséquent, il était certainement interdit de faire du travail. Rabba, fils de Rava, dit une autre réponse à la question : Même si vous dites que Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi planta le jeune arbre le jour qui lui était propre, c’est-à-dire le jour où la Meguila était lue dans son lieu, il était quand même permis de planter le jeune arbre. C’est parce que le peuple juif accepta sur lui les interdictions contre les éloges funèbres et le jeûne à Pourim, mais il n’accepta pas sur lui l’interdiction contre le travail. Cela peut être prouvé du fait qu’au début, quand Mardochée et Esther proposèrent la célébration de Pourim, il est écrit : « Un jour de joie et de festin et un bon jour [yom tov] » (Esther 9:19), et à la fin, quand la célébration de Pourim fut acceptée par le peuple juif, il est écrit : « Qu’ils en fassent des jours de festin et de joie » (Esther 9:22), tandis que le terme bon jour [yom tov], qui fait allusion à un jour où il est interdit de faire du travail, n’est pas écrit. Le peuple n’accepta jamais sur lui l’interdiction de faire du travail à Pourim comme lors d’une Fête, et par conséquent l’interdiction ne prit jamais effet. La Guemara demande : Si le travail est permis à Pourim, quelle est la raison pour laquelle Rav maudit cet homme qui planta le lin ? La Guemara répond : C’était [...]
Le récit de Rabbi Yehouda HaNasi plantant un arbre le quinze d’Adar à Tibériade montre que la ville, entourée d’un mur depuis les jours de Josué, observe Pourim le quinze, conformément à la loi de la Torah qui lie la célébration à la présence du mur, et non à une simple date calendaire.

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