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▶ 💬 Guemara but he does not bring the offering for impurity. The Gemara comments: From the words: But if he becomes impure he does n…
but he does not bring the offering for impurity. The Gemara comments: From the words: But if he becomes impure he does not bring an offering for impurity, one can infer that it is the offering that he does not bring. However, all of the prohibitions of naziriteship apply to him, and it is prohibited for him to become impure from a corpse. This leads to the following question: Whose opinion is expressed in the mishna? It is not the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda and not the opinion of Rabbi Shimon, as it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Yehuda says: A nazirite like Samson is permitted to become impure from a corpse ab initio, as we find with Samson that he became impure. Rabbi Shimon says: One who says he will be a nazirite like Samson has not said anything, since we do not find with Samson that an utterance of a vow of naziriteship left his mouth. Samson never took a vow to be a nazirite. He received his status from the angel’s instructions to his mother (see Judges 13:5). Consequently, Rabbi Shimon holds that one who vows to be a nazirite like Samson is not considered to have taken a nazirite vow. The Gemara explains the question: Whose opinion is expressed in the mishna? If it is the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, didn’t he say that it is permitted for a nazirite of this kind to become impure from a corpse even ab initio, but the mishna teaches: If he becomes impure, which indicates that he is prohibited from doing so ab initio? However, if you say that the mishna is according to the opinion of Rabbi Shimon, didn’t he say that naziriteship does not apply to him at all? The Gemara answers: Actually, the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, and a nazirite like Samson may become impure from a corpse even ab initio. And since it teaches with regard to a permanent nazirite: If he becomes impure, as it is prohibited for a permanent nazirite to become impure from a corpse ab initio, the tanna also taught the same expression with regard to a nazirite like Samson and used the expression: If he becomes impure. § The Gemara suggests: Let us say that Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon disagree with regard to the issue that is the subject of the dispute between these tanna’im, as we learned in a baraita: If one says: This object is hereby forbidden to me like a firstborn, Rabbi Ya’akov prohibits the individual from deriving benefit from the object, as he holds that a vow of this sort is valid. And Rabbi Yosei permits it, because the sanctity of a firstborn is not the result of a vow or sanctification. Rather, it is sacred of its own accord, and therefore its forbidden status cannot be extended by means of a vow to other items. What, is it not the case that Rabbi Yehuda holds in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Ya’akov, who said that in order for a vow to take effect, we do not require one to extend the forbidden status of an item rendered forbidden by means of a vow? Consequently, just as one can render an object forbidden by extending to it the sanctity of a firstborn animal, one can become a nazirite by accepting upon himself the status of Samson, whose prohibitions were not established by a vow. And Rabbi Shimon holds in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, who said that in order for a vow to take effect, we do require one to extend the forbidden status of an item rendered forbidden by means of a vow. Consequently, one cannot become a nazirite by accepting upon himself the status of Samson. The Gemara responds: No, it can be explained that everyone agrees that we require one to extend the forbidden status of an item rendered forbidden by means of a vow. And according to Rabbi Ya’akov, the halakha is different with regard to a firstborn, as it is written about this in the verse pertaining to vows: “When a man vows a vow to the Lord” (Numbers 30:3). This comes to include the firstborn and teach that since the firstborn is consecrated, its status is comparable to animals designated as offerings by means of a vow, and one can extend its forbidden status to another item. And Rabbi Yosei could have said to you in response that he needs that expression: “To the Lord,” to include a sin-offering and a guilt-offering. One may not obligate himself to bring these offerings by means of a vow. They are brought only when one becomes liable due to a transgression. Nevertheless, one can take a vow by extending to another item the forbidden status of a sin-offering or guilt-offering. The Gemara questions Rabbi Yosei’s explanation: And what did you see that indicated to you to include a sin-offering and a guilt-offering and to exclude a firstborn? The Gemara answers: I include a sin-offering and a guilt-offering, as one grants consecrated status to the animals designated for these offerings by means of a vow, i.e., the act of designating specific animals for these offerings is comparable to taking a vow. And I exclude a firstborn, as one does not grant it consecrated status by means of a vow. And Rabbi Ya’akov could have said to you in response: Also in the case of a firstborn, one grants it consecrated status by means of a vow, as it is taught in a baraita: The Sages of the house of our Rabbi, i.e., Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, said: From where is it derived that when a firstborn male animal is born in one’s herd, there is a mitzva for him to consecrate it, although it is consecrated from the time it is born? As it is stated: “All firstborns males that are born to your herd and to your flock you shall sanctify” (Deuteronomy 15:19). And Rabbi Yosei could have said to you in response: Granted that there is a mitzva to consecrate it. But if he does not consecrate it, is it not consecrated of its own accord? Since a firstborn is forbidden principally because of its inherent sanctity and not because of a vow, one cannot express a vow by extending a firstborn’s forbidden status to another item. The Gemara asks: Both Rabbi Ya’akov and Rabbi Yosei agree that the phrase “to the Lord” indicates that one can take a vow by associating the object of his vow with an item whose prohibition does not stem from a vow. With regard to a nazirite as well, isn’t it written: “Shall clearly utter a vow, the vow of a nazirite, to consecrate himself to the Lord” (Numbers 6:2)? Why doesn’t Rabbi Shimon derive from this verse that one can become a nazirite by accepting the naziriteship of Samson, despite the fact that Samson did not accept his naziriteship by means of a vow? The Gemara answers: That phrase is required by him for that which is taught in a baraita: Shimon HaTzaddik said: In all my days as a priest, I never ate the guilt-offering of a ritually impure nazirite, apart from the offering of one man who came to me from the South, who had beautiful eyes and a fine countenance, and his locks were arranged in curls. I said to him: My son, what did you see to become a nazirite, which would force you to destroy this beautiful hair, as a nazirite must cut off all his hair at the conclusion of his term? He said to me: I was a shepherd for my father in my town, and I went to draw water from the spring, and I looked at my reflection in the water. And my evil inclination quickly rose against me and sought to drive me from the world. I said to my evil inclination: Empty one! For what reason are you proud in a world that is not yours, as your end is to be maggots and worms when you die. I swear by the Temple service that I will become a nazirite and shave you for the sake of Heaven. Shimon HaTzaddik relates: When I heard his response, I arose and kissed him on his head, and said to him: May there be more nazirites like you in Israel, whose intentions are noble, and who would not regret their vow of naziriteship even if they became impure. With regard to you the verse states: “When either a man or a woman shall clearly utter a vow, the vow of a nazirite, to consecrate himself to the Lord” (Numbers 6:2). The verse speaks of a vow that is not undertaken out of anger or spite, but purely for the sake of God. The phrase “to the Lord” in this context means: For the sake of Heaven. It cannot be used to teach that if one declares his intention to become a nazirite like Samson, his statement constitutes a nazirite vow. The Gemara challenges the assumption that Samson’s naziriteship was not accepted through a vow: And was Samson not a nazirite whose naziriteship was accepted by a vow? Isn’t it written: “For the child shall be a nazirite of God from the womb” (Judges 13:5)? The Gemara answers: There it was the angel who spoke. Samson’s nazirite status did not stem from a vow uttered by a human being. The Gemara asks: And from where do we derive that Samson became impure from corpses? If we say it is from the fact that it is written: “And Samson said: With the jawbone of an ass, I smote a thousand men” (Judges 15:16), perhaps he thrust the jawbone at them but did not touch them, and he remained pure. Rather, it is derived from here: “And he smote thirty men of them, and took their garments” (Judges 14:19). Since he stripped the clothes off the dead he must have come into contact with them. The Gemara counters: Perhaps he stripped them first and afterward killed them. The Gemara responds: It is written: “And he smote…and took,” in that order, indicating that first he killed them and then he took their clothing. The Gemara asks: But perhaps he mortally wounded them and thereby caused them to be in the process of dying, and he then took their clothes before they died so that he would not touch their corpses. Rather, it must be concluded that it is learned as a tradition that Samson would become impure from corpses. § The Gemara clarifies a halakha taught in the mishna: And where is the concept of a permanent nazirite written? As it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: Absalom was a permanent nazirite, as it is stated: “And it came to pass at the end of forty years, that Absalom said to the king: I pray to you, let me go and pay my vow, which I have vowed to the Lord, in Hebron” (II Samuel 15:7). And he cut his hair once every twelve months, as it is stated: “And when he polled his head, now it was at every year’s [yamim] end that he polled it; because the hair was heavy on him” (II Samuel 14:26).
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mais il n’apporte pas l’offrande pour l’impureté. La Guemara commente : Des paroles : Mais s’il devient impur, il n’apporte pas d’offrande pour l’impureté, on peut déduire que c’est l’offrande qu’il n’apporte pas. Cependant, toutes les interdictions de naziréat s’appliquent à lui, et il lui est interdit de devenir impur par un cadavre. Cela conduit à la question suivante : De qui est l’avis exprimé dans la mishna ? Ce n’est pas l’avis de Rabbi Yehouda et pas l’avis de Rabbi Chimon, comme il est enseigné dans une baraita : Rabbi Yehouda dit : Un naziréen comme Samson a le droit de devenir impur par un cadavre ab initio, comme nous trouvons que Samson est devenu impur. Rabbi Chimon dit : Celui qui dit qu’il sera un naziréen comme Samson n’a rien dit, puisque nous ne trouvons pas que Samson ait prononcé une parole de vœu de naziréat de sa bouche. Samson n’a jamais fait de vœu pour être naziréen. Il a reçu son statut des instructions de l’ange à sa mère (voir Juges 13:5). Par conséquent, Rabbi Chimon soutient que celui qui fait le vœu d’être un naziréen comme Samson n’est pas considéré comme ayant pris un vœu de naziréat. La Guemara explique la question : De qui est l’avis exprimé dans la mishna ? Si c’est l’avis de Rabbi Yehouda, n’a-t-il pas dit qu’il est permis à un naziréen de ce genre de devenir impur par un cadavre même ab initio, mais la mishna enseigne : S’il devient impur, ce qui indique qu’il lui est interdit de le faire ab initio ? Cependant, si tu dis que la mishna est selon l’avis de Rabbi Chimon, n’a-t-il pas dit que le naziréat ne s’applique pas à lui du tout ? La Guemara répond : En réalité, la mishna est conforme à l’avis de Rabbi Yehouda, et un naziréen comme Samson peut devenir impur par un cadavre même ab initio. Et puisqu’elle enseigne en ce qui concerne un naziréen permanent : S’il devient impur, car il est interdit à un naziréen permanent de devenir impur par un cadavre ab initio, le tanna a aussi enseigné la même expression en ce qui concerne un naziréen comme Samson et a utilisé l’expression : S’il devient impur. § La Guemara suggère : Disons que Rabbi Yehouda et Rabbi Chimon sont en désaccord en ce qui concerne la question qui est le sujet de la dispute entre ces tanna’im, comme nous avons appris dans une baraita : Si quelqu’un dit : Cet objet est par la présente interdit pour moi comme un premier-né, Rabbi Ya’akov interdit à l’individu de tirer un bénéfice de l’objet, car il soutient qu’un vœu de ce genre est valide. Et Rabbi Yosseï le permet, car la sainteté d’un premier-né n’est pas le résultat d’un vœu ou d’une sanctification. Plutôt, il est sacré de lui-même, et donc son statut interdit ne peut pas être étendu par un vœu à d’autres objets. Quoi, n’est-ce pas le cas que Rabbi Yehouda tient conformément à l’avis de Rabbi Ya’akov, qui a dit que pour qu’un vœu prenne effet, nous n’exigeons pas que l’on étende le statut interdit d’un objet rendu interdit par un vœu ? Par conséquent, de même que l’on peut rendre un objet interdit en y étendant la sainteté d’un animal premier-né, on peut devenir naziréen en acceptant sur soi le statut de Samson, dont les interdictions n’ont pas été établies par un vœu. Et Rabbi Chimon tient conformément à l’avis de Rabbi Yosseï, qui a dit que pour qu’un vœu prenne effet, nous exigeons que l’on étende le statut interdit d’un objet rendu interdit par un vœu. Par conséquent, on ne peut pas devenir naziréen en acceptant sur soi le statut de Samson. La Guemara répond : Non, on peut l’expliquer que tout le monde est d’accord que nous exigeons que l’on étende le statut interdit d’un objet rendu interdit par un vœu. Et selon Rabbi Ya’akov, la halakha est différente en ce qui concerne un premier-né, car il est écrit à son sujet dans le verset concernant les vœux : « Quand un homme fera un vœu à l’Éternel » (Nombres 30:3). Cela vient pour inclure le premier-né et enseigner que puisque le premier-né est consacré, son statut est comparable aux animaux désignés comme offrandes par un vœu, et on peut étendre son statut interdit à un autre objet. Et Rabbi Yosseï pourrait te dire en réponse que il a besoin de cette expression : « À l’Éternel », pour inclure un sacrifice pour le péché et un sacrifice de culpabilité. On ne peut pas s’obliger à apporter ces offrandes par un vœu. Elles ne sont apportées que lorsque l’on devient liable en raison d’une transgression. Néanmoins, on peut faire un vœu en étendant à un autre objet le statut interdit d’un sacrifice pour le péché ou d’un sacrifice de culpabilité. La Guemara questionne l’explication de Rabbi Yosseï : Et qu’as-tu vu qui t’a indiqué d’inclure un sacrifice pour le péché et un sacrifice de culpabilité et d’exclure un premier-né ? La Guemara répond : J’inclus un sacrifice pour le péché et un sacrifice de culpabilité, car on accorde le statut consacré aux animaux désignés pour ces offrandes par un vœu, c’est-à-dire que l’acte de désigner des animaux spécifiques pour ces offrandes est comparable à faire un vœu. Et j’exclus un premier-né, car on ne lui accorde pas le statut consacré par un vœu. Et Rabbi Ya’akov pourrait te dire en réponse : Aussi dans le cas d’un premier-né, on lui accorde le statut consacré par un vœu, comme il est enseigné dans une baraita : Les Sages de la maison de notre Rabbi, c’est-à-dire Rabbi Yehouda HaNassi, ont dit : D’où est-il dérivé que lorsqu’un premier-né mâle naît dans le troupeau de quelqu’un, il y a une mitsva pour lui de le consacrer, bien qu’il soit consacré f [...]
La discussion sur Samson et le naziréat renvoie à Juges 13:5 : « L’enfant sera naziréen de Dieu dès le sein maternel, et c’est lui qui commencera à délivrer Israël de la main des Philistins. » Les rabbins débattent de la portée de ce vœu, mais l’Écriture souligne que la force de Samson venait de l’Esprit de l’Éternel, comme il est dit : « L’Esprit de l’Éternel le saisit » (Juges 14:6). Jésus accomplit cette figure en étant lui-même « consacré et envoyé dans le monde » (Jean 10:36), non par un vœu humain, mais par l’onction de l’Esprit.

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