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whereas with regard to the children of rival wives, I testify to you that they are not disqualified, since, as stated, their descendants served as High Priests. § The Gemara states: Come and hear another source that indicates Beit Shammai did act upon their opinions: In the time of Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas, the rival wife of a daughter was permitted to the brothers. Conclude from this that Beit Shammai did act in accordance with their opinions. The Gemara summarizes these proofs: Indeed, conclude from these sources that Beit Shammai did put their rulings into practice. § Since the last source is only part of a larger incident, the Gemara cites the matter itself. In the time of Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas the Sages permitted the rival wife of a daughter to the brothers. In other words, it became known that Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas deemed permitted a daughter’s rival wife. And this matter was difficult in the eyes of the Rabbis because he was a great Sage and his decision in favor of Beit Shammai carried great weight. They could not approach him immediately, as he was very old and his eyes had dimmed so much that he was incapable of coming to the study hall. They said: And who will go and notify him that this matter requires clarification? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: I will go. They asked: And who shall go after him? They selected Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya, who was one of the great Sages of the generation, notwithstanding his youth. They further inquired: And who after him? Rabbi Akiva. They went and stood at the entrance of Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas’s house. His maidservant entered and said to him: Rabbi, the Sages of Israel have come to you. He said to her: Let them enter, and they entered. Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas grabbed Rabbi Yehoshua, with whom he was already acquainted, and sat him on a bed of gold, as Rabbi Dosa was extremely wealthy. Rabbi Yehoshua said to him: Rabbi, call your other disciple so that he may sit. He asked him to call the other Sage as well, as it is a mark of respect when speaking to a great scholar to call every other Sage his disciple. He said to him: Who is it? Rabbi Yehoshua replied: Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya. Rabbi Dosa said: And does our colleague Azarya have a son? Due to his old age and prolonged absence from the study hall he had not heard of him. Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas recited this verse about Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya: “I have been young, and now am old; yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread” (Psalms 37:25). He interpreted this verse to mean that the son of a Torah scholar also becomes a Torah scholar. He grabbed him and sat him on a bed of gold. Rabbi Yehoshua said to him: Rabbi, call your other disciple so that he may sit. He said to him: Who is that? He said to him: Akiva ben Yosef. Rabbi Dosa said to him: You are Akiva ben Yosef, whose name has spread from one end of the world to the other? Even Rabbi Dosa had heard of Rabbi Akiva’s reputation as a great man. Sit, my son, sit. May the likes of you multiply in Israel. Out of courtesy, they did not wish to broach the subject immediately. Rather, they began to encircle him with deliberations on different halakhot, until they came to the case of the rival wife of a daughter. They said to him: What is the halakha with regard to the rival wife of a daughter? He said that it is a matter of dispute between Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel. They asked him: According to whose statement is the halakha? He said to them: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Beit Hillel. They said to him: But didn’t they say in your name that the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Beit Shammai? He said to them: Did you hear that Dosa ben Harkinas issued this ruling, or did you hear that it was stated by ben Harkinas? They said to him: On your life, Rabbi, we heard simply ben Harkinas. He said to them: If so, it is no wonder, as I have a younger brother who is the firstborn of the Satan, i.e., he is extremely sharp and as brazen as a demon. And his name is Yonatan, and he is among the disciples of Shammai. It is he who issued this ruling. Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas added: And beware that he not batter you with halakhot in this matter, as he has with him three hundred proofs with regard to the rival wife of a daughter that she is permitted. However, you need not worry about the issue itself, as I call as witnesses before me the heavens and the earth that on this very mortar, which was preserved in my house due to its historical importance, Haggai the prophet sat, and I have a tradition that he said three matters of halakha: First, that the rival wife of a daughter is forbidden. Second, that the halakhic rulings for the territories of Ammon and Moab in Transjordan, although similar to those of Eretz Yisrael, are not exactly the same, as their residents tithe the poor man’s tithe in the Sabbatical Year. The total abandonment of fields in the seventh year does not apply in Ammon and Moab, as they are not part of Eretz Yisrael. Instead, in those areas one must bring the poor man’s tithe to the paupers of Eretz Yisrael, as there are no tithes in Eretz Yisrael in the Sabbatical Year. Lastly, Haggai testified: And one accepts converts from the Karduyin and the Tarmodim, without concern that there might be Jews mingled among them, which could render them mamzerim and prohibited from entering the community. The Sage taught: When they entered, they all entered through one entrance. When they left, they left through three entrances, in an effort to try to find Rabbi Dosa’s brother. Rabbi Akiva encountered him. Yonatan ben Harkinas raised against him all of his objections to the opinion of Beit Hillel, and he withstood him, i.e., Rabbi Akiva was able to respond to all of them. Yonatan ben Harkinas grew angry and said to him: You are Akiva ben Yosef, whose name has spread from one end of the world to the other? Be happy that you have merited a great name, and yet you have not yet reached the level of cattle herders. Cattle herders were generally simple individuals who were not familiar even with ordinary matters, and certainly not with halakha. Rabbi Akiva said to him with characteristic modesty: And I have not even reached the level of shepherds, who are considered even worse than cattle herders, as they are unfit for giving testimony. § Since the halakhot of the prophet Haggai were mentioned, the Gemara discusses them here. Haggai said that Ammon and Moab tithe the poor man’s tithe in the Sabbatical Year, as the Master said: Many cities were conquered by those who returned from Egypt, and were not conquered by those who returned from Babylonia after the destruction of the First Temple. And the initial consecration of Eretz Yisrael, by those who returned from Egypt, sanctified it for its time and did not sanctify it forever, as the future sanctification of Eretz Yisrael depended on the renewed conquest of the land by the Jewish people. And those who returned from Babylonia left those places aside and did not consider them part of Eretz Yisrael even after Jewish settlement was renewed there. They would plow and harvest in these places in the Sabbatical Year and tithe the poor man’s tithe so that the poor of Eretz Yisrael who did not have sufficient income from the previous years could rely upon them. Consequently, in the Sabbatical Year the poor received help from this tithe. § Haggai also declared: And one accepts converts from the Karduyim and the Tarmodim. The Gemara asks: Is that so? But didn’t Rami bar Yeḥezkel teach in a baraita: One does not accept converts from the Karduyim? Rav Ashi said: Kartuyim, not Karduyim, was stated by Rami bar Yeḥezkel. As people say in common discourse: The Kartuyim are unfit. And there are those who say a slightly different version of this discussion. Rami bar Yeḥezkel taught: One does not accept converts from the Kartuyim. What, is it not the case that Kartuyim is the same as Karduyim? If so there is a contradiction between the baraita of Rami bar Yeḥezkel and the statement of Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas. Rav Ashi said: No; the Kartuyim are one discrete category and the Karduyim are another discrete category, as people say: Kartuyim are unfit. Rabbi Yoḥanan and the Elders both say: One does not accept converts from the Tarmodim. The Gemara asks: And did Rabbi Yoḥanan actually say this, that one does not accept converts from the Tarmodim due to a concern that Jews may have intermingled with them? But didn’t we learn in a mishna: All clothing with stains of blood that might be from a menstruating woman and that come from the city on the border of Eretz Yisrael called Rekem are ritually pure, as it can be assumed that they belong to gentiles, and the blood of a menstruating gentile woman is not ritually impure. And Rabbi Yehuda deems it ritually impure because those residents of that place are converts and are in error. In other words, some of the inhabitants of Rekem assimilated and no longer observe the halakhot of the Torah, and therefore one must be wary lest the stains are in fact from a Jewish menstruating woman. Stains that came from among the gentiles, however, are ritually pure. And we discussed the following problem:
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tandis qu’en ce qui concerne les enfants des femmes rivales, je vous atteste qu’ils ne sont pas disqualifiés, puisque, comme il a été dit, leurs descendants ont servi comme Grands Prêtres. § Le Gemara dit : Venez et écoutez une autre source qui indique que Beit Shammai a agi selon leurs opinions : À l’époque de Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas, la femme rivale d’une fille était permise aux frères. Concluez de cela que Beit Shammai a agi conformément à leurs opinions. Le Gemara résume ces preuves : En effet, concluez de ces sources que Beit Shammai a mis leurs décisions en pratique. § Puisque la dernière source ne fait que partie d’un incident plus large, le Gemara cite l’affaire elle-même. À l’époque de Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas, les Sages ont permis la femme rivale d’une fille aux frères. En d’autres termes, il est devenu connu que Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas jugeait permise la femme rivale d’une fille. Et cette affaire était difficile aux yeux des Rabbins parce qu’il était un grand Sage et que sa décision en faveur de Beit Shammai avait un grand poids. Ils ne pouvaient pas l’approcher immédiatement, car il était très âgé et ses yeux s’étaient affaiblis au point qu’il était incapable de venir à la salle d’étude. Ils dirent : Et qui ira l’informer que cette affaire nécessite une clarification ? Rabbi Yehoshua leur dit : J’irai. Ils demandèrent : Et qui ira après lui ? Ils choisirent Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya, qui était l’un des grands Sages de la génération, malgré sa jeunesse. Ils demandèrent encore : Et qui après lui ? Rabbi Akiva. Ils allèrent et se tinrent à l’entrée de la maison de Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas. Sa servante entra et lui dit : Rabbi, les Sages d’Israël sont venus vers toi. Il lui dit : Qu’ils entrent, et ils entrèrent. Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas attrapa Rabbi Yehoshua, qu’il connaissait déjà, et l’assit sur un lit d’or, car Rabbi Dosa était extrêmement riche. Rabbi Yehoshua lui dit : Rabbi, appelle ton autre disciple afin qu’il puisse s’asseoir. Il lui demanda d’appeler l’autre Sage également, car c’est une marque de respect, lorsqu’on parle à un grand érudit, d’appeler tout autre Sage son disciple. Il lui dit : Qui est-ce ? Rabbi Yehoshua répondit : Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya. Rabbi Dosa dit : Et notre collègue Azarya a-t-il un fils ? En raison de son grand âge et de son absence prolongée de la salle d’étude, il n’avait pas entendu parler de lui. Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas récita ce verset à propos de Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya : « J’ai été jeune, et maintenant je suis vieux ; pourtant je n’ai pas vu le juste abandonné, ni sa postérité mendiant du pain » (Psaumes 37:25). Il interpréta ce verset comme signifiant que le fils d’un érudit de la Torah devient aussi un érudit de la Torah. Il l’attrapa et l’assit sur un lit d’or. Rabbi Yehoshua lui dit : Rabbi, appelle ton autre disciple afin qu’il puisse s’asseoir. Il lui dit : Qui est-ce ? Il lui dit : Akiva ben Yosef. Rabbi Dosa lui dit : Es-tu Akiva ben Yosef, dont le nom s’est répandu d’un bout du monde à l’autre ? Même Rabbi Dosa avait entendu parler de la réputation de Rabbi Akiva comme grand homme. Assieds-toi, mon fils, assieds-toi. Que des gens comme toi se multiplient en Israël. Par courtoisie, ils ne voulurent pas aborder le sujet immédiatement. Plutôt, ils commencèrent à l’entourer avec des délibérations sur différentes halakhot, jusqu’à ce qu’ils en viennent à au cas de la femme rivale d’une fille. Ils lui dirent : Quelle est la halakha concernant la femme rivale d’une fille ? Il dit que c’est une question de dispute entre Beit Shammai et Beit Hillel. Ils lui demandèrent : Selon la déclaration de qui la halakha est-elle ? Il leur dit : La halakha est conformément à l’opinion de Beit Hillel. Ils lui dirent : Mais n’a-t-on pas dit en ton nom que la halakha est conformément à l’opinion de Beit Shammai ? Il leur dit : Avez-vous entendu que Dosa ben Harkinas a émis cette décision, ou avez-vous entendu qu’elle a été énoncée par ben Harkinas ? Ils lui dirent : Sur ta vie, Rabbi, nous avons entendu simplement ben Harkinas. Il leur dit : Si c’est ainsi, ce n’est pas étonnant, car j’ai un frère plus jeune qui est le premier-né du Satan, c’est-à-dire qu’il est extrêmement vif et aussi effronté qu’un démon. Et son nom est Yonatan, et il est parmi les disciples de Shammai. C’est lui qui a émis cette décision. Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas ajouta : Et prenez garde qu’il ne vous batte avec des halakhot dans cette affaire, car il a avec lui trois cents preuves concernant la femme rivale d’une fille qu’elle est permise. Cependant, vous n’avez pas à vous inquiéter de la question elle-même, car j’appelle comme témoins devant moi les cieux et la terre que sur ce même mortier, qui a été conservé dans ma maison en raison de son importance historique, Haggaï le prophète s’est assis, et j’ai une tradition qu’il a dit trois choses de halakha : Premièrement, que la femme rivale d’une fille est interdite. Deuxièmement, que les décisions halakhiques pour les territoires d’Ammon et de Moab en Transjordanie, bien que similaires à celles d’Eretz Yisrael, ne sont pas exactement les mêmes, car leurs résidents prélèvent la dîme du pauvre dans l’année sabbatique. L’abandon total des champs dans la septième année ne s’applique pas à Ammon et à Moab, car ils ne font pas partie d’Eretz Yisrael. Au lieu de cela, dans ces régions, on doit apporter la dîme du pauvre aux pauvres d’Eretz Yisrael, car il n’y a pas de dîmes en Eretz Yisrael dans l’année sabbatique. Enfin, Haggaï a témoigné : Et l’on accepte des convertis des Karduyin et des Tarmodim, sans crainte qu’il y ait parmi eux des Juifs mêlés, ce qui pourrait les rendre mamzerim et interdits d’entrer dans la communauté. Le Sage enseigna : Quand ils entrèrent, ils entrèrent tous par une seule entrée. Quand ils sortirent, ils sortirent par
L’épisode de Rabbi Dosa ben Harkinas et des Sages venus le consulter évoque le respect dû aux anciens : « Tu te lèveras devant les cheveux blancs, et tu honoreras la personne du vieillard » (Lévitique 19:32). La citation « J’ai été jeune, et maintenant je suis vieux » (Psaume 37:25) rappelle que la fidélité de Dieu traverse les générations. L’Évangile honore cette sagesse tout en révélant que le plus grand dans le Royaume est celui qui sert (Luc 22:26).

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