▶💬Guemaraand this person, Rabbi Yehuda from India, departed to death, and that individual, Mar Zutra, departed to life by receivi…
and this person, Rabbi Yehuda from India, departed to death, and that individual, Mar Zutra, departed to life by receiving a slave.
And there are those who say that this slave was a minor, and Mar Zutra did not act in accordance with the opinion of Abba Shaul. As it is taught in a baraita: With regard to a convert who dies without heirs and Jews plundered his property, as it is considered ownerless, and among his possessions were slaves, then, whether the slaves were adults or minors, they acquire ownership of themselves and become freemen, as they can acquire themselves from the ownerless property. Abba Shaul says: Adult slaves acquire ownership of themselves and become freemen. But with regard to minor slaves, anyone who takes possession of them acquires them. According to the opinion of Abba Shaul, Mar Zutra did not have to hasten to acquire the slave during Rabbi Yehuda’s lifetime before the slave would acquire himself. He could have waited until Rabbi Yehuda died before acquiring the slave.
§ The mishna teaches that a slave can acquire himself by means of money, and Rabbi Meir rules that this money must be given by others. The Gemara comments: This ruling indicates that with money given by others, yes, the slave can be freed in this manner, but not by giving money himself. The Gemara inquires: With what are we dealing? If we say that this is referring to emancipating the Canaanite slave without his consent, that creates a difficulty. After all, we have heard that Rabbi Meir is the one who says: It is against the slave’s interest to leave his master’s authority for freedom, as he thereby loses out on certain benefits; and we learned in a baraita: One can act in a person’s interest in his absence, but one can act against a person’s interest only in his presence. How can one act against the slave’s interest and free him without his consent?
Rather, it is obvious that this slave was freed with his consent, and the mishna teaches us this: With money given by others, yes, the slave can be freed in this manner, but by giving money himself, no, he cannot be freed in this manner, despite his consent. Evidently, a slave has no acquisition without his master. It is impossible for a slave to perform an independent act of acquisition, as everything acquired by him immediately belongs to his master. Consequently, he cannot be in possession of money with which he can acquire himself. Instead, the money must be given to his owner by somebody else.
The Gemara asks: If so, say the latter clause of the mishna: He can be freed by means of a bill of manumission if he accepts it by himself. The Gemara analyzes this ruling: If he accepts it by himself, yes, but if it is accepted by others, no, he cannot acquire his freedom in this manner. And if this document is produced with the slave’s consent, as claimed above, why is it not effective if it is accepted by others?
The Gemara adds: And if you would say in response: What is the meaning of: If he accepts it by himself? This means that in addition to being freed if the bill of manumission is accepted by others, he can also be freed if he accepts it by himself, and according to this interpretation the mishna teaches us this, that his bill of manumission and his ability to acquire himself come simultaneously. In other words, although he did not have the legal power to acquire himself while he was still a slave, when he receives his bill of manumission he attains this ability at that same moment. The Gemara explains why this interpretation of the mishna is problematic: But Rabbi Meir did not teach this ruling, as it is taught in a baraita: A slave can be freed by means of a bill of manumission if he accepts it by himself, but not if it is accepted by others; this is the statement of Rabbi Meir.Abaye said: Actually, according to Rabbi Meir the mishna is referring to a case where the master received money without the slave’s consent, and acquisition effected with the giving of money is different: Since it acquires him against his will from another master, as the slave’s consent is not necessary in that case, it likewise acquires him for himself against his will. His consent is not required, despite the fact that it is against his interest to be freed.
The Gemara asks: If so, that the halakha that a slave can be freed with the giving of money without his consent is predicated on the halakha that he can be acquired by means of the giving of money to his previous master without his consent, he should also be freed with a document if it is accepted by others without his consent. The Gemara answers: This document is discrete, and this document is discrete, i.e., the comparison between the acquisition of a slave and his emancipation is invalid in the case of a document, as a document of sale is not similar to a bill of manumission.
The Gemara asks: Here too, this money is discrete and this money is discrete, as the money is given for a different purpose in the cases of acquisition and manumission. The Gemara answers: In any event, the coin itself is one, i.e., there is no noticeable difference between the coin used for acquisition of a slave and one that would be used for emancipating him. The same cannot be said with regard to documents, as particular texts serve specific purposes, and the same document could not be used for both acquiring a slave and emancipating him.
Rava said the following distinction: With regard to emancipation by means of money, his master’s receipt of the money causes him to be freed, not the giving of the money by others. Therefore, they are not considered to have harmed the slave without his consent. By contrast, in the case of a document, the receipt of the document by others on behalf of the slave causes him to be freed, and one can incur liability for another person only in his presence.
§ The mishna teaches: And the Rabbis say: The slave can be freed by means of money given by himself. The Gemara analyzes this ruling: By means of money given by himself, yes, he can be emancipated in this manner, but with money given by others, no, he cannot be emancipated in this manner. The Gemara asks: Why not? Although this was indeed performed without the slave’s consent, after all, we heard that the Rabbis say: It is in a slave’s interest to go out from the master’s authority to freedom. And we learned in a baraita: One can act in a person’s interest in his absence, but one can act against a person’s interest only in his presence. Why, then, isn’t he freed when others give the money, considering that this change of status is to his advantage?
And if you would say: What is the meaning of the phrase: By means of money given by himself? This means that not only can he be redeemed by means of money given to others but he can be redeemed even by means of money given to himself, and it teaches us that a slave has the ability to receive an acquisition without his master. If so, say the latter clause of the mishna: He can be freed by means of a bill of manumission if it is accepted by others. This indicates: If it is accepted by others but not if he accepts it by himself. And yet we maintain that according to the Rabbis his bill of manumission and his ability to acquire his freedom come simultaneously. If so, why can’t he be freed through a document he accepts by himself?
And if you would say: What is the meaning of: If it is accepted by others? This means that not only can he be emancipated if he accepts the bill of manumission by himself, but he can even be freed if it is accepted by others, and the mishna teaches us this: That it is in a slave’s interest to go out from the master’s authority to freedom. If so, there is no difference between emancipation by means of money and emancipation by means of a document, and therefore let us combine them and teach them together and say: A slave can be freed by means of money and by means of a bill of manumission, whether by others or whether by himself.Rather, it is clear that there is a difference between money and a document. When he is emancipated by means of money, a slave can be freed whether by means of money given by others or whether by means of money given by himself. In the case of a bill of manumission, he can be emancipated if it is accepted by others but not if he accepts it by himself. And this latter clause is the opinion of Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar. As it is taught in a baraita that Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says: A slave can also be freed with a bill of manumission if it is accepted by others but not if he accepts it by himself. And there are three disputes with regard to the matter. There are the opinions of Rabbi Meir, the Rabbis, and Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar.
Rabba said: What is the reason of Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar? He derives this by means of a verbal analogy, understanding the meaning of “to her [lah],” written with regard to a maidservant in the verse: “Nor was freedom given to her” (Leviticus 19:20), from the meaning of “for her [lah],” written with regard to a wife: “And he writes for her a bill of divorce” (Deuteronomy 24:3). Just as a woman is not divorced until the husband moves the bill of divorce from his domain to a domain that is not his, and the bill of divorce is ineffective as long as it remains in his domain; so too, a slave is not freed unless the master moves the bill of manumission to a domain that is not his. Since the slave belongs to him, the document will remain the master’s even if he gives it to the slave. Therefore, he can be freed by means of a document only through other people who receive the document on his behalf.
Rabba raises a dilemma:
▶🇫🇷Résumé en françaiset cet homme, Rabbi Yehouda d’Inde, partit vers la mort, et cet individu, Mar Zoutra, partit vers la vie en recevant un …
et cet homme, Rabbi Yehouda d’Inde, partit vers la mort, et cet individu, Mar Zoutra, partit vers la vie en recevant un esclave.
Et il y a ceux qui disent que cet esclave était mineur, et Mar Zoutra n’agit pasconformément à l’opinion d’Abba Chaoul. Comme il est enseigné dans une baraita : À propos de un converti qui meurt sans héritiers et des Juifs qui ont pillé ses biens, car ils sont considérés comme sans propriétaire, et parmi ses possessions se trouvaient des esclaves, alors, que les esclaves soient adultes ou mineurs, ils acquièrent la propriété d’eux-mêmes et deviennent hommes libres, car ils peuvent s’acquérir eux-mêmes à partir des biens sans propriétaire. Abba Chaoul dit : Les esclaves adultes acquièrent la propriété d’eux-mêmes et deviennent hommes libres. Mais en ce qui concerne les esclaves mineurs, quiconque prend possession d’eux les acquiert. Selon l’opinion d’Abba Chaoul, Mar Zoutra n’avait pas besoin de se hâter d’acquérir l’esclave du vivant de Rabbi Yehouda avant que l’esclave ne s’acquière lui-même. Il aurait pu attendre que Rabbi Yehouda meure avant d’acquérir l’esclave.
§ La mishna enseigne qu’un esclave peut s’acquérir lui-même par le moyen de l’argent, et Rabbi Meïr statue que cet argent doit être donné par d’autres. La Guemara commente : Cette décision indique que avec de l’argent donné par d’autres, oui, l’esclave peut être affranchi de cette manière, mais pas par le fait de donner de l’argent lui-même. La Guemara demande : De quoi s’agit-il ? Si nous disons qu’il s’agit d’affranchir l’esclave cananéen sans son consentement, cela crée une difficulté. Après tout, nous avons entendu que Rabbi Meïr est celui qui dit : Il est contraire à l’intérêt de l’esclave de quitter l’autorité de son maître pour la liberté, car il perd ainsi certains avantages ; et nous avons appris dans une baraita : On peut agir dans l’intérêt d’une personne en son absence, mais on ne peut agir contre l’intérêt d’une personne qu’en sa présence. Comment peut-on agir contre l’intérêt de l’esclave et l’affranchir sans son consentement ?
Plutôt, il est évident que cet esclave a été affranchi avec son consentement, et la mishna nous apprend ceci : Avec de l’argent donné par d’autres, oui, l’esclave peut être affranchi de cette manière, mais par le fait de donner de l’argent lui-même, non, il ne peut pas être affranchi de cette manière, malgré son consentement. Évidemment, un esclave n’a aucune acquisition sans son maître. Il est impossible pour un esclave d’effectuer un acte d’acquisition indépendant, car tout ce qu’il acquiert appartient immédiatement à son maître. Par conséquent, il ne peut pas être en possession d’argent avec lequel il pourrait s’acquérir lui-même. Au lieu de cela, l’argent doit être donné à son propriétaire par quelqu’un d’autre.
La Guemara demande : Si c’est le cas, dis la dernière clause de la mishna : Il peut être affranchi par le moyen de un document d’affranchissement s’il l’accepte lui-même. La Guemara analyse cette décision : S’il l’accepte lui-même, oui, mais s’il est accepté par d’autres, non, il ne peut pas acquérir sa liberté de cette manière. Et si ce document est produit avec le consentement de l’esclave, comme on l’a prétendu plus haut, pourquoi n’est-il pas efficace s’il est accepté par d’autres ?
La Guemara ajoute : Et si tu voulais dire en réponse : Quel est le sens de : S’il l’accepte lui-même ? Cela signifie qu’en plus d’être affranchi si le document d’affranchissement est accepté par d’autres, il peut aussi être affranchi s’il l’accepte lui-même, et selon cette interprétation, la mishna nous apprend ceci, que son document d’affranchissement et sa capacité à s’acquérir lui-même viennent simultanément. En d’autres termes, bien qu’il n’ait pas eu le pouvoir légal de s’acquérir lui-même alors qu’il était encore esclave, lorsqu’il reçoit son document d’affranchissement, il atteint cette capacité à ce même moment. La Guemara explique pourquoi cette interprétation de la mishna est problématique : Mais Rabbi Meïr n’a pas enseigné cette décision, comme il est enseigné dans une baraita : Un esclave peut être affranchi par le moyen de un document d’affranchissement s’il l’accepte lui-même, mais pas s’il est accepté par d’autres ; c’est la déclaration de Rabbi Meïr.Abaye dit : En réalité, selon Rabbi Meïr, la mishna fait référence à un cas où le maître a reçu de l’argent sans le consentement de l’esclave, et l’acquisition effectuée avec le don d’argent est différente : Puisqu’elle l’acquiert contre sa volonté d’un autre maître, car le consentement de l’esclave n’est pas nécessaire dans ce cas, elle l’acquiert également pour lui-même contre sa volonté. Son consentement n’est pas requis, malgré le fait qu’il soit contraire à son intérêt d’être affranchi.
La Guemara demande : Si c’est le cas, que la halakha selon laquelle un esclave peut être affranchi avec le don d’argent sans son consentement est fondée sur la halakha selon laquelle il peut être acquis par le don d’argent à son ancien maître sans son consentement, il devrait aussi être affranchi avec un document s’il est accepté par d’autres sans son consentement. La Guemara répond : Ce document est distinct, et ce document est distinct, c’est-à-dire que la comparaison entre l’acquisition d’un esclave et son affranchissement est invalide dans le cas d’un document, car un document de vente n’est pas similaire à un document d’affranchissement.
La Guemara demande : Ici aussi, cet argent est distinct et cet argent est distinct, car l’argent est donné dans un but différent dans les cas d’acquisition et d’affranchissement. La Guemara répond : En tout cas, la pièce elle-même est une, c’est-à-dire qu’il n’y a pas de différence notable entre la pièce utilisée pour l’acquisition d’un esclave et celle qui serait utilisée pour l’affranchir. On ne peut pas en dire autant des documents, car des textes particuliers servent à des fins spécifiques, et le même document ne pourrait pas être utilisé pour les deux, acquérir un
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▶✝️Réponse ScripturaUn esclave mineur acquiert lui-même la liberté par ses biens si le maître meurt, car il n’est pas dépendant du consentem…
Un esclave mineur acquiert lui-même la liberté par ses biens si le maître meurt, car il n’est pas dépendant du consentement du maître, contrairement à l’esclave adulte (Kidd. 23a).
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